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Features

Published: 2012/11/13

by Aaron Kayce

Jerry Joseph: I’m F***ing Happy

Photo by Tony Morey

Joseph has been laying down this type of cathartic, divisive rock show for the past 17 years with his power trio Jerry Joseph & The Jackmormons. Coming out of a hippie reggae band and heroin haze, Joseph’s first move after Little Women was to hire punk rock/rockabilly bassist JR Ruppel, who didn’t even know who Bob Weir was, let alone had any interest in jamming on Dead songs. Using Bob Mould and Sugar as a template and playing loud, angry music, Joseph says that he lost just about every fan he had over the next year.

“[The Jackmormons] were too aggressive for the traditional jamband scene, at least for as long as it was still called ‘jambands,’” says Joseph. “And because of the association with jambands [specifically Widespread Panic who was covering Joseph staples “Chainsaw City,” “Climb To Safety” and “North” to increasingly large crowds], we were never going to be able to play with Dinosaur Jr.—even though we’d walk out there and for 35 minutes and hold it as fucking tough as a band like Dinosaur Jr. without blinking. But we also have pretty quiet songs and R&B stuff and a shit ton of country stuff.”

It wasn’t just the association with jambands that kept The Jackmormons from playing with Dinosaur Jr. or, say, Rage Against the Machine whose politics and agro-rock Joseph could certainly relate to. It was, as he points out, the R&B and country stuff, as well as the Salt-n-Pepa “Lets Talk About Sex” rap that frequently occurs in “Savage Garden,” the reggae inflections, the pop hooks and the 15-minute (highly underrated) guitar jams.

The truth is, whether the scene embraced Ruppel, Joseph and drummer Steve Drizos or not, The Jackmormons are a prototypical jamband—one of the heaviest ever, but a jamband nonetheless. Featuring a marathon two-set show that is wildly different from night to night with a myriad of influences and lots of improvisation, it’s hard to make a case that they belong in any other category. Though as Joseph likes to point out, when he was growing up listening to The Allman Brothers Band, Mahavishnu Orchestra, The Clash, ZZ Top, The Rolling Stones and Steely Dan, it was just called rock and roll.

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There are many things that help make Jerry Joseph a unique artist, but what it boils down to, besides the brilliant, prolific songwriting, is the ability to rip himself open in front of an audience, force them to confront his raw inner-workings and, perhaps in the process, confront their own as well.

This often happens in one of his many “raps,” where the tempos stretch out, his eyes fix hard in the distance and his palms start to slam off the side of his sweaty head. When it works, it’s like he’s channeling spirits. It’s what puts him in the argument for one of the great unsung rock and roll frontmen of his generation and it’s what earned him the nickname “The Reverend” by Widespread Panic singer/guitarist John Bell.

“The most powerful thing, if you can’t use the word ‘love,’ is when you say ‘God’ onstage,” remarks Joseph. “Very rarely do I have the balls to do it. I’ve toyed with it before when I’ve had a huge crowd of people and I’m playing some song and I’m like, ‘You’re loved,’ ‘God loves you.’ People are crying—they need it really badly. That’s why U2 is fucking awesome and a lot of the other bands are not so fucking awesome. Because they’re not actually giving people what they fucking need. What they need is to know that they’re not alone and that they’re loved.”

As we head back to the Motel 6 on the other side of town where Joseph is staying, I ask him if that’s what he’s doing onstage: trying to give people what they need and maybe finding a way to not feel so alone himself.

“I’m a 50-year-old, little, bald guy hoping girls will still sorta like me for ten seconds,” he says with a self-deprecating laugh. “But yeah, I’m trying to figure it out sometimes, ‘What do they need?’ Everyone needs to rock out, but that’s not why they’re coming to see me. Nobody is like, ‘Well, what’s going on this weekend? Let’s just go to Jerry because he’s a good time.’”

Comments

There are 8 comments associated with this post

PHansen November 13, 2012, 17:49:25

Damn! I didn’t get to see Stockholm Syndrome and I really wanted to. I have a few audience recordings of them and I still listen to them quite a bit when I want that edgy-jamband sort of sound. Hopefully that band is revived at somepoint, I would love to catch a show of theirs. Good article/interview btw.

TMWSIY parker November 14, 2012, 17:10:04

Thank you for this fantastic interview/column. It is one of the best things I have read on Relix in a long time and one of best JJ interviews I’ve ever read too. As I long time fan of the Jackmormons, Denmark Veseys, Stockholm Syndrome and every other incarnation, I really do hope for bigger stage & success for Jerry as well as continued happiness. He deserves it more than just about anybody. Again, thanks for the great column.

Conrad November 14, 2012, 20:01:41

Jerry is the man and completely under-appreciated. Love reading about him and enjoy listening to his music even more. Well done on the article, hopefully it turns more people on to the genius of his songwriting and the unparalleled passion he spits onstage. “Let the bygones, be gone”. Go get ‘em, Jerry.

Chicoavenue November 14, 2012, 23:58:04

Love his music (jackmormons & Stockholm)! Recently saw him & I totally dig how every song is an intense, rocking journey. overall the music experience is positive/redemptive, but if you’re looking for only happy la la, these songs are much more than only that. he’s not afraid to hold up the mirror & delve the dark sides. I can appreciate the layers and for yrs am befuddled as to why people don’t get it. Thanks for the article…never knew about the California roots.

Chris November 15, 2012, 12:52:52

Jerry is easily he most underrated, under appreciated musician of all time. his shows are always amazing, and the Stockholm shows were great. I caught 5-6 of them. Truth is people can’t handle the truth he talks, and he’s too intense of a performer for most. their loss and our gain! Make the 300 mile drve to NYC anytime he’s there. Especially “North.” His music is the soundtrack to my life and I still listen to him just about daily. Left everyone I knew behind, sinking in their own addictions and moved up north to VT. Found out just how big I am. Was lucky enough to have a friend that worked for Jerry and turned me onto the J’mos about 15 yrs ago.

peterjkraus November 15, 2012, 14:15:17

I first saw Jerry and Little Women open for Burning Spear in the 80´s, thought he was very hot shit back then and still think so. Right on, Jerry. We´re still with you.

Sharon Sullivan November 15, 2012, 21:36:06

I have been listening to Jerry’s music since the 80’s. The words and music have always taken me outside myself and connected me to pain, hope and faith more than anything in this world, and perhaps way beyond this silly existence we have on earth. I have said for the last few years, as I travel all over the country to see him and give us truth and guide us to the inner parts of our soul, that he deserves to make enough money to do every damn thing he wants to do, live in whatever luxury he chooses, and be appreciated for the brilliant, beautiful person he is. I would gladly dance in a big stadium if it meant he “made it” the way he wants to. My life makes sense becasue of his music and that’s a gift none of us, who really “get it”, can ever repay.

colin November 15, 2012, 22:44:49

My personal favorite, Screamin’ Annie was a Little Women hit everytime they played the Bistro in Logan back in the 80’s. Jerry has a heart of gold but he weras an iron mask. Carry on brother, the world will catch up to you soon and you can suck it in like a briny oyster.

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