In the four decades since scoring his first international smash, “Gimme Some Lovin’,” Steve Winwood has built one of the most stunning resumés in rock history: As a teen, he co-founded the hit-making pop/soul act The Spencer Davis Group, quitting a few years later to form the revered Traffic. When tension arose, he formed the first rock supergroup, Blind Faith, with Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Rick Grech, before reviving Traffic and then embarking on a chart-topping solo career that soared in the ‘80s and early ‘90s.
In the four decades since scoring his first international smash, “Gimme
Some Lovin’,” Steve Winwood has built one of the most stunning resumés
in rock history: As a teen, he co-founded the hit-making pop/soul act The Spencer
Davis Group, quitting a few years later to form the revered Traffic. When tension
arose, he formed the first rock supergroup, Blind Faith, with Eric Clapton, Ginger
Baker and Rick Grech, before reviving Traffic and then embarking on a chart-topping
solo career that soared in the ‘80s and early ‘90s. Along the way,
he’s flanked everyone from Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf to Jimi Hendrix
and George Harrison. Having tired of pop, he recently renewed his devotion to
the warmer, jam-friendly grooves of Traffic while embracing world-music vibes
on his lauded 2003 set, About Time. At 57, it’s renewed his love
for writing, recording and performing.
Next year marks 40 years for you in the music industry. Did you have
rock-n-roll fantasies as a kid, that your career was something you envisioned,
or has it been unexpected in its success?
I was only interested in music at the time—all kinds of music—and
I knew that that as what I wanted to do. My father encouraged me, that if music
was something I felt passionate about, and if I wanted to do it, then that was
enough reason to do it, even if it wouldn’t serve me well as a career.
And I have been very lucky that I have been able to make a living at it since.
What was your role in the release of the recent Traffic DVD, The
Last Great Jam? Why this show?
I spent many years carefully listening, watching and helping to edit.
I was very involved with the production, from the audio and visual side. There
was a lot of synching things up from different shows, and it often needed a
musician’s eye. In terms of performance videos, there’s nothing
quite like it out there.
Jim and I had an agreement that neither of us would tour without the other as
Traffic. We were going to release this DVD with a Traffic tour last year, but
Jim got sick and wasn’t able to do the tour. We thought he may recover
and continue on with the project, but this was not to be because of his untimely
death. Therefore, now Traffic will never be as a band in the future and so I
feel this DVD is a fitting legacy for that peculiar band that was Traffic. It
is a very special piece.
You opened for the Grateful Dead that tour in Las Vegas and Garcia
shows up on the DVD for “Dear Mr. Fantasy.” What was the interaction
like with the band?
The band was very welcoming and accommodating and looked after us
with a great deal of kindness. Also, the Dead played some Traffic songs in their
set, which I think helped in endearing us to their fans. It’s been said
that the Dead were somewhat of a hard band to open for because of the dedication
of their fans.
When Traffic first formed in 1967, the band retreated to a small cottage
in the Berkshire countryside to work on its sound and just play. Can you tell
me a little bit more about what that time was like and how Traffic’s sound
developed? It seemed that music was at such at an exciting point then, particularly
in England with the Rolling Stones, the Beatles and the Pink Floyd.
We went out and rented a cottage, which was in the middle of nowhere,
just so we could play music all the time, without disturbing neighbors, etc.,
which was often the case when trying to do the same in London.
Traffic set out with a specific idea to create music that incorporated many
different styles: jazz, folk, rock, blues and many ethnic styles. We set out
to combine all of the elements in such a way as to forge a music that was peculiar
to ourselves. Having said that, the ‘60s were a great time of social change
and there were changes occurring not only in music, but all across the social
spectrum.
A number of Traffic’s songs—“Dear Mr. Fantasy”
and “Low Spark of the High-Heeled Boys” come immediately to mind—have
had incredible staying power; that the songs’ strength haven’t diminished
over the years. For you, what are key components and/or elements that give songs
like those their strength?
The writing we did in the early days was a means of having something
that we could jam to, a way of creating. Often, Jim would scribble down some
lyrics and then we’d find a way of playing and I’d have these lyrics
sitting on top of the organ or in front of the guitar and sing as we were playing.
That’s really how the songs came about. We didn't really construct a song
with choruses or with verses—writing just became an excuse to play together
really, to jam and I think that that is the attraction of many of their songs.
If I knew the key components, every single one of my songs would have staying
power, but perhaps honesty and not trying to be something outside the scope
of what one is is what gave these songs their strength.
You’ve been in so many different situations—is there a
place between sideman and leader, one where all members are leaders? Or, in
your opinion, do bands function best with a leader?
Traffic as a trio was definitely a band where all the members were
leaders. If a leader is needed, one needs to be there to step into the breech—a
kind of management skill.
You’ve played Bonnaroo and were given the Lifetime Achievement
award at The Jammys two years ago. What’s your sense of current improv-based
rock groups?
Love ‘em—a reaction against over-homogenized pop; a much-needed
part of today’s music scene.
One of your biggest influences is Ray Charles. Did you ever get a chance
to spend some time with him?
Yes, I did spend some time talking to him—not playing, however.
He did say that he liked my music and started singing some bits—I was
awestruck.
Though Rick Grech passed away in 1990, there’s a big question
looming given the recent Cream reunion: wouldn’t it be appropriate if
there were a Blind Faith reunion after?
I don’t think Eric Clapton would want to jump straight into
another reunion after Cream, and I think reformations and reunions aren’t
always the best idea as sometimes the members have moved on.
You’ve won Grammys, been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame, played with just about everybody who’s anybody in the music business.
Has anything eluded you?
I hope to keep learning about music. It’s a vast subject and
a never-ending learning curve. Accolades are very nice, but mostly tend to be
industry-driven, and that has never been what I have strived for. I am, however,
proud to be recognized for work that reaches people.
Steve Winwood was interviewed by Josh Baron.
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