The news
is almost too good to be true: The Pixies are back together and playing, really
well. As if a full-blown reunion wasn’t enough, lead singer Frank Black
dashed into the studio for four days in Nashville right before the band’s
tour to record a long-pondered solo album, his first since 1996’s The
Cult of Ray. Recorded in Nashville and calling upon veterans like Spooner
Oldham, Bruce Hood, Anton Fig and Steve Cropper, Honeycomb is Black’s
most soul-baring and sparse album to date. If there was any doubt, let it
be squelched: Black is back.
The news
is almost too good to be true: The Pixies are back together and playing, really
well. As if a full-blown reunion wasn’t enough, lead singer Frank Black
dashed into the studio for four days in Nashville right before the band’s
tour to record a long-pondered solo album, his first since 1996’s The
Cult of Ray. Recorded in Nashville and calling upon veterans like Spooner
Oldham, Bruce Hood, Anton Fig and Steve Cropper, Honeycomb is Black’s
most soul-baring and sparse album to date. If there was any doubt, let it
be squelched: Black is back.
What a group of musicians on this album. I didn’t initially
look at the lineup and just spun the album a few times falling harder and
harder for it each time. Then when I looked at the credits, it all made sense.
Ah, so this is why it sounds somewhat timeless.
Yeah, for sure—the band was pretty shit-hot.
Did
you guys attempt to make a “timeless” record or rather did you
attempt to create a timeless sound on this record?
Just to speak for the concepts, I’m not sure there was an
attempt to handle the songs in a certain way, but the biggest cue was probably
taken from Blonde on Blonde.
What
makes much of yours and the Pixies music so potent is a certain sense of brevity
and I feel like all these guys have that in spades; get in, get out, say and
play what you need to, done. Is that accurate at all?
Yeah, I suppose. I think to me that’s the only way to do it
really.
How
did you go about getting musicians on board?
I had nothing to do with it, it was all Jon Tiven. I knew that he
would get an A-list group of guys, and he did. He’s a very well connected
producer; he knows he lot of musicians.
I
know the sessions happened pretty quickly, you had a small window in which
to complete them, and you said that these guys probably weren’t familiar
with your work. Did you guys just meet just as musicians, without
the “I know all your work in this historical context” type of
feeling?
Yeah, cause that’s all kind of ego. I think when a lot of
musicians—whether they’re really famous or really obscure—show
up at a studio session that’s what it’s all about. It’s
about making a record, and if there’s a particular artist who’s
leading the session—Frank Black in this case—there’s not
really a lot of discussion, it’s just all about music, and doing it
as well as you can. There’s not really a lot of sitting around going
on—talking about your careers or whatever, it just isn’t like
that.
Is
the way this particular recording process went—very short sessions,
one or two takes—very typical for you?
Well, I have recorded plenty of songs in my career that have been
done in one or two takes. But, I would say—of course with it being of
this caliber—you could have made the entire album in all take-ones,
and it would have been a good record. It’s a combination of take-ones,
take-twos, and take-threes maybe. But, lets face it, they’re [the session
musicians] very, very good, they’ve got a lot of mojo. They’re
kind of oozing mojo when they walk into the room. I mean Steve Cropper walks
in with his long hair, and his big Hawaiian shirt on, carrying his own amp
in one hand, and as he comes through the doorway he says, “Hey, how
you doin’?!” like a total badass—you know that guys is going
to play good, you can just tell. I mean never mind his reputation, or even
his career, just look at the guy, his body language, he’s a 62-year-old
guy carrying his own amp. He’s been doing it a long time, he loves music,
and his whole life revolves around it. It’s the same with all of these
guys—they all have their own particular personalities, they’re
all different from each other. But you can just tell, these guys live and
breathe music, it’s what they’re all about.
This
was the first time you recorded in Nashville, what was your impression of
it?
Never even saw it. I rented a car, and had a nice hotel room downtown,
it was a convertible and barely warm enough to drive with the top down, but
I did it anyway. I’d drive down to Starbucks, get myself my double-espresso
and a muffin, and then drive to the studio. I would stay at the studio all
day, and then drive back to the hotel at night. I mean, that’s all I
did—but that’s how you make a record.
Outside
of the musicians, how important was Nashville as an influence on this album?
This is where a lot of these guys work—they either live in
Nashville, or close to Nashville, or they’re accustomed to flying into
Nashville; it’s a magnet for talent. There’s LA, Nashville, New
York, and London—that’s it, those are the music towns. There are
obviously exceptions, but of all of those towns, I would say Nashville is
pretty big for music, not just country music either. It’s the crossroads
of Americana, that’s were it all happened: Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi,
that whole part of the world.
You
said, “I’ve now played with the best musicians there are, and
they’ve slapped me on the back and given me a wink and a nod.
So I know I am a singer. I am a musician. I can finally
relax and do the gig, whatever it might be.” And the story you relay
about practicing the vocal for “Dark End of the Street” quietly
in the bathroom. I’m surprised, that even at your level with everything
you’ve accomplished and done, that there’s still some level of
self-doubt or insecurity. Does that ever go away you think? Or is it good
to have?
Yeah, I suppose it’s good to have. When you get too cocky,
that’s when things really get messed up.
Are
you going to hook up a tour with these guys?
Yes, I’m trying to organize that, and we’ll see what
happens. I’m trying organize a series of residencies, and, well, we’ll
see. They all have careers and stuff, so they’re kind of hard to nail
down—I mean, they have Neil Young calling them, I have a lot of competition
(laughs).
Have
any of your older Pixies songs taken on a new meaning due to a change in personal
context over the years?
Maybe in a moment here and a moment there, but so many of the Pixies
songs are so abstract which makes them difficult to connect to in a real specific
way, they’re so out there lyrically.
Would
you say that lyrically speaking, this is your most straightforward and honest
album?
Yes, cause I’ve heard that question more than once now, so
that must be what’s going on.
I
like the point you make in saying, “We’re being financially rewarded
for something we did 20 years ago; I’m not embarrassed by that. Isn’t
that what art is about? Being recognized?”
When I say “recognized,” I tend to mean financially
compensated, and that’s what it’s about for all of us… getting
some money because we deserve it or because the market says you deserve X.
My point is, I’m not a plumber or a school teacher, I’m a musician—I
get paid to do my music by the patrons, and every musician has that opportunity,
whether it’s getting back together with their old band or playing the
one hit they had back in the day, whatever it is, they can capitalize on it
at some point in their career. Whether it’s this really beautiful artistic
statement or this crass Las Vegas medley, whatever it is, it’s the right
of a musician to capitalize on whatever he can capitalize on. Being a musician
is about not having to work at another job. It’s pretty significant
to have your music support you as opposed to it being some sort of a hobby.
When
did music become your sole means of support?
When I was about 22-years-old.
Were
you surprised how good you guys sounded when you started playing with the
Pixies again?
It was satisfying to be able to be like, “Oh, yes, we sound
the same.”
If
were to take your recent song “My Life in Storage” as something
reflective of your own state of being, have you “unpacked” yet?
Well, my life is in a much happier place, but I still have a lot
of storage—between my girlfriend and I, we have a lot of storage. I
have a lot of musical equipment in storage too, but I’m not living life
in storage. I have a home now—when I wrote that song I didn’t
really have a home. I literally had a kind of storage space with running water.
I lived in a loft and I was on the road all the time, and when I got home
no one was waiting for me—I really felt like I was literally living
in a storage space.
Has
anything ever eluded you?
Performance—being able to be a real performer I suppose. I
don’t have a lot of moves, and to be fair, there are a lot of people
out there that have moves, and it’s nice to have that kind of confidence
where you’re not only playing you’re music, but you’re performing
as well; you’re really projecting to the back of the room and doing
something extra. But, I come from a band that just kind of comes out there
and plays the music without any kind of “hey yo, hey yo.” None
of that—it’s strictly about playing the music. However, it would
be nice to be more of a performer, I’ve just never been able to do it.
Josh
Baron interviewed Frank Black.
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